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March 08, 2009

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Paul T

Wow! I feel your pain as you share this. While I did not completely follow the comments for the first person, the second comment is one that I relate to very well. The question I would ask the second person would be, "Why is it important that the person available to you in your moment of need is a PASTOR (or should I say carries the title of pastor)?" This shows an improper understanding of what the church really is.

Throughout scripture we encouraged to "one another" each other. Love one another, bear one another's burdens, and so on. God calls the body to care for each other and not limit it to a group of paid professionals. It is this type of expectation of pastors that keep most of them over-stressed and understudied in their ministries (in my opinion)

Jesus' most significant opposition came from those who thought they knew best how religion ought to work. It sounds like the same came be said for you in these situations...

Be encouraged! Don't let these hard-hearts distract you from the plenty of people whom God has given you to minister to.

Dennis Papp

Kathy,

I brought a couple friend with me to the workshops on Thursday and Friday. Every time I come to Granger I am blown away by two things: the caliber of the volunteers...simply amazing and the availability of the staff. I've never been to seminars where the leaders make themselves so available...walking around on breaks and actually initiating engagement with people. I know this is not about Sunday morning, but from what I have experienced, I'd attend Granger in a heartbeat. The fact that people matter is obvious everywhere. Keep up the great work, and thanks for what you shared in Mark's session on Friday.

Frank Chiapperino

Kathy, you all are doing some great work there at GCC and I have great respect for your team. I have had some similar experiences here at CCV. I am regularly amazed how some people can claim to be followers of Christ but act in such hurtful ways. My hope is that through these type of conversations, and helping these negative people move on, that I am protecting others. Especially those that are far from God.

Dan Clark

Kathy,
It seems that these are more examples of those that think they are the only ones that matter...and the pastor/church needs to bow to their needs. Those who have been at GCC for any length of time KNOW that all people do matter to GOD and ALL of GCC's staff...but pleasing people is not the primary mission of ANY church of Christ followers. I think back to Mark's message on the "I Chair". If they want to be "personally" served by the pastor, there are many good small churches out there.
Dan

Ruth Hunt

I agree on all the comments thus far. I will add that the scriptures mention that pastors (leaders) are to equip others.

Ephesians 4:11 - 13: Now these are the gifts Christ gave to the church: the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, and the pastors and teachers. Their responsibility is to equip God’s people to do his work and build up the church, the body of Christ. This will continue until we all come to such unity in our faith and knowledge of God’s Son that we will be mature in the Lord, measuring up to the full and complete standard of Christ.

Maybe the one that wanted to by pass you and others on the staff did not 'get this'?

Thank you Kathy for all that you do. I appreciate no more then ever before the abilities of the staff at GCC. I don't find the pastors at GCC unapproachable at all. Actually, since being here I find them more so then any of the smaller churches that I have attended. Shocking, eh? I love this church!

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  • My name is Kathy Guy. My role at Granger Community Church is Director of Community where my role is about creating the spaces where people come together in groups. The other role I fill is to provide counseling and care services to our guests. My days are spent helping people discover they matter to God by finding real connection with one another.

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